… if forward-thinking, forward-leaning leadership were present:
Wiseburd, the creator of the Web monitoring site Internet Haganah, which collects and stores intelligence for governments to use, said he was responsible for the dismantling of thousands of extremist sites.
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But a private intelligence contractor said winning the War on Terror isn’t just about shutting down sites; it’s about tackling the heart of the problem.
“Great. Somebody shut down a bunch of websites. What we’re trying to do is find out where the terrorists are.”
Assuming that the gov’t isn’t (and hasn’t) been a player in this domain is foolish; presuming that “amateurs” have no role here is equally nonsensical (the difference between any random CIIDG and SITE is a DUNS number and a cage code). Want to know who is going to help avoid the next failure? The guy who rallies the irregulars into an effective fighting force.
Follow-Up: For all the CIIDGs out there: assume our Uncle gets his act together WRT leveraging irregulars; what guidance would you like to receive/be willing to accept; what resources would you find useful/accept; what level of C2 would you be willing to accept?
Additionally, how do you define success?

Comments (7)
This, from the article is hilarious:
“There are a lot of weekend warriors and quasi vigilantes out there that think they can do what the government can’t,” said a private intelligence contractor for the U.S. government who has been investigating jihadist Web sites for more than 15 years. The contractor spoke to FOXNews.com on condition of anonymity due to his continuing work with U.S. intelligence.
More than 15 years??? LOL.
Posted by John Robb
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March 22, 2008 11:49 AM
Posted on March 22, 2008 11:49
Uncle is not going to get his act together.
Some individuals working for Uncle know how to persuade, change and influence.
Others just want to be dicks.
The assumption of .gov competence has flown the coop. Perceptions have been managed in the opposite direction.
Long Rifles and militamen just laugh at the pompous Redcoat majors in the cyber space version of Last of the Mohicans.
Posted by Cannoneer No4
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March 23, 2008 9:36 PM
Posted on March 23, 2008 21:36
For all the CIIDGs out there: assume our Uncle gets his act together WRT leveraging irregulars;
what guidance would you like to receive/be willing to accept?
We want targeting and Intel requests from Uncle.
Vetting assistance, IT Security audits. Money. Feedback,
Willing to accept?
Something less than orders,
Based on Paradigms from OSINT, Uncle is at least a generation behind.
We lead. Unless I see a paradigm that I’m not adhering to standards of clarity or argument within the ontology.
What resources would you find useful/accept?
secure wikis., cyber side arms, exemptions from hacking laws.
what level of C2 would you be willing to accept?
Secrecy agreements, letters of Marque,
liaison officer integrated into group.
Additionally, how do you define success?
Two steps:
1. degradation of their public C2
2. re-balance world view.
Training of the Ummah for self education, using reliable sources on the Internet.
Information warriors.
Gerald
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Posted by Gerald anthro
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March 24, 2008 12:32 AM
Posted on March 24, 2008 00:32
HOW:
“Training of the Ummah for self education, using reliable sources on the Internet.”
Its to long to answer here, but you as an intelligent person, well educated, functioning of FREE will and good reasoning, have been convinced to buy 2 cents of water for $1.oo
If the one is do-able so is the other, given a good time frame.
And resources, Critical thinking is a viral process.
G
Posted by Gerald anthro
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March 24, 2008 6:59 PM
Posted on March 24, 2008 18:59
The guy who rallies the Irregulars into an effective fighting force can’t do it from the inside. Too many oppositional elements with veto power. It won’t be one guy, either. It will be another Anonymous, a more or less counterinsurgent-supportive counter-Jihad Anonymous.
Every arm of the Federal octopus in the game who wants to deconflict with and leverage Irregulars will need their own Irregular LNO who can develop rapport, credibility, conspiritorial camaraderie
and apply the meat space lessons of Robins Sage to cyberspace.
Posted by Cannoneer No4
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March 25, 2008 6:28 AM
Posted on March 25, 2008 06:28
The guy who rallies the Irregulars into an effective fighting force can’t do it from the inside. Too many oppositional elements with veto power. It won’t be one guy, either. It will be another Anonymous, a more or less counterinsurgent-supportive counter-Jihad Anonymous.
Every arm of the Federal octopus in the game who wants to deconflict with and leverage Irregulars will need their own Irregular LNO who can develop rapport, credibility, conspiritorial camaraderie
and apply the meat space lessons of Robins Sage to cyberspace.
Posted by Cannoneer No4
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March 25, 2008 6:30 AM
Posted on March 25, 2008 06:30
it’s preferable to keep the sites operating as a way of tracking the spread of radical Islam, rather than try to quell them one by one
http://tinyurl.com/2bb7ez
sez a senior US counterterrorism official who asked not to be identified because of his sensitive position.
Posted by Cannoneer No4
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March 27, 2008 11:01 AM
Posted on March 27, 2008 11:01